Problem z odpalaniem po nocy i dłuższym postoju

[tomszwed]

Mam Tur 2 z 2012 i nie świeca lampki w drzwiach czy dużo pracy by je uruchomic ?

[klakier81]

Problem z odpalaniem po nocy i dłuższym postoju

Witajcie,
gorąca prośba o pomoc. Wiem, że pewnie jest mnóstwo wątków - bardziej lub mniej podobnych - ale chciałbym zasięgnąć porady.
Problem pojawił się jakieś 2 tyg temu (1 tydzień po naprawie po stłuczce z dwóch stron - tak, byłem nawet w głównym wydaniu wiadomości pod koniec lutego .
Otóż z reguły z rana jak odpalam moją S i nie dam "gazu" to nie odpali i co więcej będę kręcił jeszcze z 15x zanim odpali. Jeżeli przekręcając kluczyk jednocześnie dodam gazu - trochę mulasto, ale pójdzie. Dodam, że wcześniej zapalał jak igła.
Nadmienię jeszcze, że w lutym miał wymianę rozrządu, olek, komplet filtrów, a miesiąc później była robiona uszczelka pod głowicą plus szklanki.
Po podpięciu pod VAGa i VCDSa nie wywala błędów.

CZytałem, że może to być problem z układem paliwowym lub coś z kątem wtrysku.
Prawda to? Pomóżcie...

[przemik]

Kąt wtrysku jest całkowicie pod kontrolą ECU w Twoim samochodzie - nie ustawia się go.

Dwie rzeczy:

1. Odpepnij czujnik temperatury i sprawdz czy cos sie poprawi.
2. Wykonaj logi statyczne przy max nagrzanym motorze - grupy - 001,004,007,013,018 i 023

Pozdrawiam

[klakier81]

1. Odpepnij czujnik temperatury i sprawdz czy cos sie poprawi.

o który czujnik temperatury chodzi? silnika?

2. Wykonaj logi statyczne przy max nagrzanym motorze - grupy - 001,004,007,013,018 i 023

na odpiętym czujniku czy nie?

pozdro

[przemik]

1. Wtyczke czujnika temparatury płynu.
2. Logi statyczne wykonaj na max zagrzanym silniku... i na zapiętym czujniku.

[klakier81]

o ten czujnik chodzi?

[przemik]

Tak zdejmij wtyczke z niego i zobacz czy się cos poprawi.

[klakier81]

sprawa wygląda tak.
Nie zdjąłem tej wtyczki, bo fizycznie nie byłem w stanie się do niej dostać.
Ale... zalałem wczoraj diesel ultimate na BP (wcześniej też na BP tylko zwykły ON).
Odpalam rano i co? - odpalił za pierwszym razem.

Myślicie, że będzie już hulać?
Może wymiana filtra paliwa, albo wogóle sprawdzenie układu paliwowego?

pozdro

[przemik]

Heh myslimy ze moze to bedzie to.

Nie wykonałes logów wiec moze to bedzie paliwo , a moze filtr, a moze...

Pozdrawiam

[zuberek]

Pytanie z innej beczki
Po myci auta trzeba długo kręcić żeby silnik zapalił. Rozrusznik kręci a silnik tak jakby nie mógł "Zaskoczyć" Wystarczy się przejechać, i wszystko wraca do normy. Czy ktoś wcześniej spotkał się już z takim problemem?

[klakier81]

hej,
poniżej lista błędów sprzed tygodnia.

Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 1K0-820-047.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1Z0 820 047 D
Component and/or Version: Climatic PQ35 010 0301
Software Coding:
Work Shop Code: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 346C0054686179BC
1 Fault Found:

00229 - Refrigerant Pressure
002 -- Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent


Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 3C0-937-049-23-H.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 3C0 937 049 E HW: 3C0 937 049 E
Component and/or Version: Bordnetz-SG H37 1002
Software Coding: 01880F030004140000110D000000000000087F075C
Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00000
Additional Info: 1Z1955119A Wischer SK351 012 0401
VCID: 2B5E1B28B55F2644
1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 -- No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00110100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 5
Mileage: 190125 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
ON
Voltage: 12.95 V
ON
ON
OFF
OFF
OFF


Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 1K0-953-549-MY8.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 953 549 AF HW: 1K0 953 549 AF
Component and/or Version: Lenksäulenmodul 034 0070
Software Coding: 0000012
Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 76E8FA5C3E9D2BAC
1 Fault Found:

00888 - Wiper Switch for Intermittent Operation (E22)
014 -- Defective - Intermittent



Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 1K0-907-530.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1K0 907 530 F HW: 1K0 907 951
Component and/or Version: Gateway H10 0120
Software Coding: 3D3F0F40072302
Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 2A501E2CBAA53F4C
1 Fault Found:

01314 - Engine Control Module
004 -- No Signal/Communication - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100100
Fault Priority: 2
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 4
Mileage: 190125 km
Time Indication: 0
Date: 2000.00.00
Time: 21:06:39



Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 1K0-959-701-MIN2.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1T0 959 701 B
Component and/or Version: Tuer-SG 024 2345
Software Coding: 0000244
Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 36683A5C7E1D6BAC
1 Fault Found:

00943 - Heated Exterior Mirror; Driver Side (Z4)
012 -- Electrical Fault in Circuit - Intermittent




Mniej więcej wiem o co chodzi w niektórych, ale nie wiem za co się zabrać w pierwszej kolejności.
Poprosze o pomoc.

Jeżeli chodzi o czujnik - wskazówki po nagrzaniu pokazują 90, komputer 72.

[przemik]

Jeżeli chodzi o czujnik - wskazówki po nagrzaniu pokazują 90, komputer 72

Słabo... wyglada ze coś lezy.... warto by wykonac logi 007 na zimnym i na goracym silniku i porownac z odczytem w "Instrumenst"

[klakier81]

hej,
po dłuższej przerwie...
Wymieniłem obydwa czujniki temperatury (obydwa okazały się takie same - ten przy chłodnicy i silniku).
Kumpel miał ten sam problem w golfie V - okazało się że przewód masowy nie dokręcony. Zatem dodałem dodatkową masę - przeplotka - z silnika na karoserię.

Problem cały czas występuje.
Po tych wymianach zrobiłem u brata wczoraj logi - poniżej efekt.

Monday,25,April,2011,15:53:00:36838
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Data version: 20101123



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Address 01: Engine Labels: 03G-906-016-BKC.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 03G 906 016 K HW: 028 101 223 7
Component and/or Version: R4 1,9L EDC 0000SG 7002
Software Coding: 0000071
Work Shop Code: WSC 73430 790 00000
VCID: 2B5E1B28B55F2644
1 Fault Found:

16687 - Cylinder 3: Misfire Detected
P0303 -- 000 -- - - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
RPM: 798 /min
Torque: 58.6 Nm
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Load: 0.0 %
Voltage: 14.06 V
Inj. Quantity: 2.96 mg/str
Temperature: 27.0°C
(no units): 0.0


Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0

Monday,25,April,2011,15:54:44:36838
VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2
Data version: 20101123


Address 56: Radio Labels: 1K0-035-1xx-56.lbl
Control Module Part Number: 1Z0 035 161 B HW: 1Z0 035 161 B
Component and/or Version: Radio FO3 013 0029
Software Coding: 0000200
Work Shop Code: WSC 00870 259 96301
VCID: 2D5A15308B4B2874
1 Fault Found:

00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30
002 -- Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent

To jedyne błędy, które wyskoczyły.

[alxxx]

16687 - wskazuje, że coś niefajnego dzieje się na 3 cylindrze i może przez to wypadać zapłon, dlatego moze nie chcieć palić.

00668 - w jakim stanie masz bateryjke w aucie? jeżeli aku klęka to mogą występować różne objawy.

[klakier81]

16687 - wskazuje, że coś niefajnego dzieje się na 3 cylindrze i może przez to wypadać zapłon, dlatego moze nie chcieć palić.

Co to znaczy "coś niefajnego"? W lutym miałem wymianę uszczelki. goście mówili coś wtedy o delkatnych rysach na którymś z cylindrów. Z uwagi na spore koszty szlifowania - darowałem sobie.

00668 - w jakim stanie masz bateryjke w aucie? jeżeli aku klęka to mogą występować różne objawy.

Aku generalnie ok - może przez to długie kręcenie chwilowo się poddał?!

[przemik]

Co to znaczy "coś niefajnego"? W lutym miałem wymianę uszczelki

Wykonaj logi statyczne.... juz pisałem jakie grupy... im szybciej tym lepiej....

[klakier81]

hej,
wypluło mi 2 pliki csv, których nie mogą załączyć. Co z tym zrobić?
poniżej podgląd jak to wygląda...

[ Dodano: Nie 29 Kwi, 12 11:48 ]
.. zapomniałem dodać.
Byłem w piątek u znajomego elektryka - stwierdził niedziałający przekaźnik świec żarowych. Cewki nie dają prądu po włączeniu zapłonu, nie można się połączyć z przekaźnikiem przez kompa.
Przekaźnik zamówiony - jutro ma być..

[ Dodano: Nie 29 Kwi, 12 12:13 ]
chyba to tak powinno wyglądać jednak - wrzucam więc całość:


Thursday,28,April,2011,19:58:05:36838,VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2,Data version: 20101123
03G 906 016 K,,R4 1.9L EDC 0000SG 7002,

,Group A:,'001,,,,Group B:,'004,,,,Group C:,'007
,,Engine Speed,Injection Quantity,Injection Duration,Coolant,,Engine Speed,Injection Start,Injection Duration,Torsion Value,,Fuel Temperature,,Intake Air,Coolant
,TIME,(G28),,(specified),Temperature (G62),TIME,(G28),(specified),(specified),,TIME,(G8 1),,Temperature (G72),Temperature (G62)
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,20.72,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,20.82,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,20.91,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,21.01,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.21,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,21.30,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.39,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.49,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,21.58,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.68,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.79,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,21.88,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,21.97,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.07,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,22.16,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.25,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.37,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,22.46,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.64,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,22.74,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.83,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,22.95,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,23.03,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.12,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.20,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,23.28,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.37,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.48,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,23.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.66,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.75,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,23.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,23.94,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.06,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,24.15,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.24,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.33,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,24.43,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.52,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.63,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,24.72,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.82,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,24.91,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,25.00,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.21,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,25.30,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.39,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.49,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,25.58,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.68,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.79,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,25.88,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,25.97,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.07,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,26.16,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.25,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.37,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,26.46,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.64,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,26.74,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.83,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,26.95,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,27.04,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.13,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.22,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,27.32,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.41,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.52,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,27.62,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.71,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.80,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,27.90,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,27.99,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.10,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,28.19,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.28,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.37,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,28.46,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.67,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,28.76,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,28.94,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,29.04,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.13,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.24,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,29.33,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.43,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.52,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,29.61,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.70,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.81,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,29.90,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,29.99,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.08,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,30.18,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.27,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.39,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,30.48,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.66,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,30.75,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,30.96,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,31.05,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.15,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.24,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,31.33,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.43,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.54,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,31.63,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.72,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,31.82,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,31.91,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.00,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.12,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,32.21,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.30,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.40,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,32.49,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.58,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.70,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,32.79,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.88,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,32.97,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,33.07,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.16,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.28,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,33.38,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.48,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.57,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,33.66,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.75,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,33.87,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,33.96,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.05,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.15,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,34.24,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.33,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.45,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,34.54,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.63,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.73,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,34.82,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,34.91,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.03,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,35.12,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.21,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.30,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,35.39,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.49,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.60,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,35.69,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.79,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,35.88,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,35.97,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.07,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.18,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,36.27,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.36,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.46,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,36.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.65,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.76,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,36.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,36.94,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.03,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,37.12,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.21,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.32,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,37.41,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.51,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.60,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,37.69,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.79,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,37.90,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,37.99,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.08,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.16,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,38.26,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.35,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.46,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,38.54,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.62,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.71,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,38.80,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,38.89,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.01,73.8,N/A,N/A,N/A
,39.10,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.19,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.29,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,39.37,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.46,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.57,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,39.66,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.76,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,39.85,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,39.94,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.04,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.15,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,40.24,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.34,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.43,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,40.52,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.62,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.73,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,40.82,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,40.91,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.01,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,41.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.19,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.31,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,41.40,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.49,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.59,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,41.68,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.77,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,41.89,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,41.98,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.07,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.16,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,42.25,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.35,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.46,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,42.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.65,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.74,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,42.83,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,42.93,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.04,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,43.13,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.22,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.32,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,43.41,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.50,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.62,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,43.71,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.80,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,43.90,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,43.99,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.09,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.20,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,44.29,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.38,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.47,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,44.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.65,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.76,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,44.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,44.94,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.04,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,45.13,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.22,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.34,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,45.43,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.52,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.62,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,45.71,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.80,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,45.92,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,46.01,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.19,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,46.29,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.38,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.49,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,46.58,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.68,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.77,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,46.87,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,46.96,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.07,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,47.16,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.26,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.35,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,47.44,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.53,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.64,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,47.73,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.82,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,47.91,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,48.01,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.21,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,48.30,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.40,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.49,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,48.58,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.68,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.79,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,48.88,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,48.97,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.07,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,49.16,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.26,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.37,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,49.46,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.55,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.65,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,49.74,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.83,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,49.95,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,50.04,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.13,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.23,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,50.32,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.41,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.53,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,50.62,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.71,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.80,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,50.90,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,50.98,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.09,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,51.18,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.27,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.36,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,51.45,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.54,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.65,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,51.74,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.84,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,51.93,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,52.02,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.12,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.23,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,52.32,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.41,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.51,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,52.60,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.69,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.81,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,52.90,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,52.99,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.08,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,53.18,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.27,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.39,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,53.48,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.66,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,53.76,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.85,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,53.96,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,54.05,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.14,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.23,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,54.32,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.41,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.53,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,54.62,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.71,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.80,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,54.90,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,54.99,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.11,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,55.20,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.29,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.37,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,55.46,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.56,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.67,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,55.75,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.84,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,55.92,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,56.01,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.10,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.21,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,56.30,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.39,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.48,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,56.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.66,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.78,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,56.87,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,56.96,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,57.05,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
,57.15,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,57.24,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,57.35,74.7,N/A,N/A,N/A
Thursday,28,April,2011,20:01:26:36838,VCDS Version: Release 10.6.2,Data version: 20101123
03G 906 016 K,,R4 1.9L EDC 0000SG 7002,

,Group A:,'001,,,,Group B:,'004,,,,Group C:,'007
,,Engine Speed,Injection Quantity,Injection Duration,Coolant,,Engine Speed,Injection Start,Injection Duration,Torsion Value,,Fuel Temperature,,Intake Air,Coolant
,TIME,(G28),,(specified),Temperature (G62),TIME,(G28),(specified),(specified),,TIME,(G8 1),,Temperature (G72),Temperature (G62)
Marker,STAMP, /min,,,,STAMP, /min,,,,STAMP,°C,,,
,0.01,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.09,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.18,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
,0.27,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.36,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.46,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
,0.57,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.66,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.75,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
,0.85,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,0.94,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,1.04,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
,1.15,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,1.24,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,1.33,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
,1.42,819,N/A,N/A,N/A,1.51,840,N/A,N/A,N/A,1.60,77.4,N/A,N/A,N/A
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[ Dodano: Nie 29 Kwi, 12 12:16 ]
jeszcze jedna informacja - wczoraj po dłuższym kręceniu i odpaleniu, na jałowym tak dymił, że aż dostałem opieprz od pani, która opalała się na balkonie...

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Logi smietnik.... nieczytelne.
Wstaw jak Bozia przykazała.

[Krzych]

Byłem w piątek u znajomego elektryka - stwierdził niedziałający przekaźnik świec żarowych

Przy obecnych temperaturach świece nie mają wpływu na odpalanie. Problem jest z paliwem, a dokładnie z jego brakiem na pompowtryskach.
Nie pomylił ktoś przewodów na filtrze paliwa podczas naprawy?

[klakier81]

Logi smietnik.... nieczytelne.
Wstaw jak Bozia przykazała.

tak jest lepiej?

[ Dodano: Nie 29 Kwi, 12 22:56 ]

Byłem w piątek u znajomego elektryka - stwierdził niedziałający przekaźnik świec żarowych

Przy obecnych temperaturach świece nie mają wpływu na odpalanie. Problem jest z paliwem, a dokładnie z jego brakiem na pompowtryskach.
Nie pomylił ktoś przewodów na filtrze paliwa podczas naprawy?

No właśnie do końca nie wiem - wymiana filtra paliwa (dwa przewdy były wycinane bo nie chciały zejść) odbywała się w warsztacie, do którego nie mam niestety zaufania.
Jest jakiś schemat, wg którego powinny być podłączone przewody?

[Krzych]

dwa przewdy były wycinane bo nie chciały zejść

W jakim celu?
W tym aucie jest tylko wkład filtra do wymiany, więc nie ma potrzeby odpinać przewody.
Może przy robocie z głowicą coś pomylili?

Odezwij się jutro na gg

[klakier81]

dwa przewdy były wycinane bo nie chciały zejść

W jakim celu?
W tym aucie jest tylko wkład filtra do wymiany, więc nie ma potrzeby odpinać przewody.
Może przy robocie z głowicą coś pomylili?

Nie potrafię odpowiedzieć na to pytanie.
Podczas wymiany uszczelki mogli poplątać w przewodach?

PS.
Czy jazda przy tych wszystkich objawach jest dopuszczalna? Pytam pod kątem majówki - wybieram się z rodzinką we wtorek w Tatry i trochę się obawiam...

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Samochod odpala czy bardzo ciezko ? czy jak ?

[klakier81]

Samochod odpala czy bardzo ciezko ? czy jak ?

Wyminiłem dziś wspomniany wyżej przekaźnik, zajrzałem do klapy przy EGR - trochębyło syfu, wyczyściłem. Jednak klapa działa - w stanie spoczynku powinna być otwarta?!

Wydaje mi się, że nic nie pomogło.

Jeżeli chodzi o obudowę filtra paliwa - jest czysto. nie widać żadnych wycieków na długości, ruszanych podczas wymiany filtra, przewodów paliwowych.

Jeżeli chodzi o odczyty - możliwe jest, że silnik pracuje na jednym cylindrze???!!!

[ Dodano: Pon 30 Kwi, 12 14:28 ]
...
i jeszcze jedna sprawa...

Po długim kręceniu - zwłaszcza rano - w momencie odpalenia słychać jak coś zaskakuje w skrzynce z bezpiecznikami. Bezpieczniki jednak sprawdzone - wszystkie ok.

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Nie sądze ze umknęłoby Twojej uwadze to, że silnik pracuje na jednym cylindrze... nie wiem czy to w ogole mozliwe.

Klapa gaszaca zamyka się ... powodujac ze silnik nie jest niespokojny przy jego gaszeniu.